Episode 44: Mariel pastor
25/07/2025
Join Ailey Jolie and Mariel Pastor, therapist, trainer, and creator of Character Mapping, on this episode of In This Body. The conversation moves through the heart of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy; exploring how self-energy, parts work, and somatic presence can bring us into deeper peace with ourselves and with one another. Mariel shares reflections on spiritual embodiment, cultural conditioning, and the healing power of love in therapeutic spaces. Together they speak to the nuanced relationship between trauma and creativity, the sacredness of the client-clinician connection, and how healing opens us to both tenderness and aliveness. We hope you enjoy the episode.
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In this episode:
02:04 Understanding Internal Family Systems (IFS)
08:11 The Systemic Nature of Mind, Body, Spirit, and Culture
12:09 Navigating the Challenges of IFS
18:02 The role of Somatics in IFS Practice
26:03 The importance of Connection in Therapy
34:14 The Role of Nature in Healing
37:21 Creativity and Healing: a deep Connection
39:34 The importance of doing our own Work
43:53 Artists and the wounds of Creativity
52:09 The Nuances of Performance in Therapy
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