Episode 44: Mariel pastor

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Written By Ailey Jolie

25/07/2025

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Join Ailey Jolie and Mariel Pastor, therapist, trainer, and creator of Character Mapping, on this episode of In This Body. The conversation moves through the heart of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy; exploring how self-energy, parts work, and somatic presence can bring us into deeper peace with ourselves and with one another. Mariel shares reflections on spiritual embodiment, cultural conditioning, and the healing power of love in therapeutic spaces. Together they speak to the nuanced relationship between trauma and creativity, the sacredness of the client-clinician connection, and how healing opens us to both tenderness and aliveness. We hope you enjoy the episode.

About In This Body: Conversations with leading experts about the importance of embodiment in living an authentic life. In This Body asks the important questions: How does connecting to your body change your life? How will connecting to your body allow you to love better and live more authentically? And how does connecting to your body change the trajectory of our shared world?

In this episode:

02:04 Understanding Internal Family Systems (IFS)

08:11 The Systemic Nature of Mind, Body, Spirit, and Culture

12:09 Navigating the Challenges of IFS

18:02 The role of Somatics in IFS Practice

26:03 The importance of Connection in Therapy

34:14 The Role of Nature in Healing

37:21 Creativity and Healing: a deep Connection

39:34 The importance of doing our own Work

43:53 Artists and the wounds of Creativity

52:09 The Nuances of Performance in Therapy

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