Episode 85: Ailey Jolie

10/01/2026


Why can you understand your patterns completely and still feel them happening in your body?

In this solo episode, Ailey responds to listener questions about the space between what we know intellectually and what the body has learned through experience. She explores why understanding where a pattern comes from does not necessarily stop the stomach from dropping or the body from bracing when something feels unsafe.

Ailey considers how our bodies learn through repetition and relationship, often long before we have language for what is happening. She reflects on what can happen when we repeatedly override internal signals and why reconnecting with the body may require something different from simply understanding ourselves better.

The conversation also turns toward pleasure and the surprising difficulty some of us experience staying present when something feels good. Rather than treating disconnection as another problem to overcome, Ailey invites us to become curious about what the body may be protecting us from and to practise staying with sensation in ways that feel manageable.

Ultimately, this episode offers a gentler understanding of why healing does not always follow what we know. Sometimes the body needs time to experience something different before it can begin to believe something different.

About In This Body: Conversations with leading experts about the importance of embodiment in living an authentic life. In This Body asks the important questions: How does connecting to your body change your life? How will connecting to your body allow you to love better and live more authentically? And how does connecting to your body change the trajectory of our shared world?

In this episode:

  • 2:40 Listener Questions And What’s Next

  • 8:44 Beauty Standards Stored As Reflex

  • 14:10 Untangling Inherited Body Disgust

  • 18:34 Relearning Hunger After Dieting

  • 21:48 Building Real Space To Slow Down

  • 25:53 Why Talk Therapy Isn’t Enough

  • 29:18 When Pleasure Triggers Numbness

  • 33:34 Making Embodiment Last In Life

  • 40:17 Final Invites And Closing Grounding

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